Rolling Stone, 1995
EVEN IF HE DID LOOSE TO STEPHEN KING ON
Celebrity Jeopardy! last year, David Duchovny remains one smart cookie. How many
TV hunks do you know who went to Princeton, then grad school at Yale, and
started a doctoral thesis titled Magic and Technology in Contemporary American
Fiction and Poetry?
The 35-year old
Duchovny grew up middle-class and "half-Jewish,half-Scotish" on
Manhattan's Lower East Side. His father -who wrote such books as David Ben-Gurion
in His Own words and The Wisdom of Spiro T. Agnew- and his mother, a
schoolteacher, divorced when he was 11. David earned a scholarship to
Collegiate, an elite day school where his fellow students included John F.
Kennedy Jr. Just shy of earning his doctorate, Duchovny, who'd taken to hanging
around the Yale Drama School, decided to switch paths and act. Many of us first
spotted him as the transvestite FBI agent Dennis/Dennise Bryson on Twin Peaks.
He's also been seen in films including Beethoven, The Rapture, Chaplin and
Kalifornia. His
Dating resume, meanwhile includes Maggie Wheeler (Chandler's whiny ex-girlfriend
Janice on Friends) and Perry Reeves (Mulder's vampire love thang in the
"3" episode of The X-Files); more recently he's been spotted with
Kristin Davis (Brooke on Melrose Place).
During our interview,
Duchovny appears to be more of a witty and quirky wise-ass than intense brooder
like Mulder. He's also apparently more of a team player than the maverick Mulder
-he's even contributed story ideas to The X-Files.
Oh, yes he's smart. Maybe too smart. As I'm leaving his
trailer dressing room after questioning him, Duchovny turns to me and in that
famously charming monotone says "It's really nice to have someone
intelligent to talk to." A bit latter he adds, " I wasn't referring to
you. I just meant that as a general rule it's really nice to have someone
intelligent to talk to." Such displays of alienating humor make me hope
someday he will use his erudition to pen a memoir. I Am Not Fox, perhaps?
Tell me about your first acting role.
In 5th grade I was one of the Three Magicians at Grace
Church. I stopped after that like, "Don't send me these other parts. I
brought frankincense to the Lord, and now you want me to be a spear
carrier?"
So when did the acting bug bite?
I was being around Yale. And my friend Jason Beghe had
become an actor. I was like, you can actually do that? Deconstruct the success
of The X-Files"
X-Files is like any popular show -you don't deconstruct
it. It works because people say it works. But I think people want answers. This
show offers a kind of Oliver Stone world where there are bad guys they're the
reason we're all unhappy. If only we can find these bad, white, middle aged men
who killed Kennedy, stole and hid the UFOs, then killed my father and Gillian's
sister, everything would be cool. It's a nice fiction. An intelligent response.
So how come Stephen King kicked your ass on
"Jeopardy"?
It haunts me. Actually I kicked my own ass. The good
thing is that Stephen's one of the only people who understand how annoying it is
for people to say "This is just like an X-File, David huh?" because he
always gets "This is just like one of your books Stephen, huh?"
Did you enjoy cross-dressing on "Twin
Peaks"?
It was nerve -racking, Twin Peaks was such a big show,
and nobody knew who I was. I didn't do research. I let instinct take over.
Did you get positive reaction from the
cross-dressing community?
No, but in my heart, when I think of Mrs. Doubtfire and
To Wong Foo and
the cross-dressing craze, I feel I was an under appreciated pioneerette.
How was doing "Red Shoe Diaries"?
The pilot was a great experience that taught me a lot
about acting.
And your ongoing stint as the narrator?
That's good paycheck.
Did you think The X-Files would make it?
I didn't think so. A show about extraterrestrials -no
matter how well made- how many can you do? I didn't see the show opening up to
about anything that's unexplained, which is limitless.
When did you realize the show was
connecting?
People would come up to me and preface their comments
with "I don't watch TV, but..." We're not the kind of show you watch
just because you're sitting in front of a TV. We're must-see TV.
Where you aware of Fox's reluctance to casting Gillian?
That's overblown. You look at Gillian, and she's a
beautiful woman. And how often do you see Scully in a bathing suit? Gillian's
not 6 feet tall and doesn't have what's-her-face's tits, but she's got as nice
face as
any of them. Maybe they thought she's not tall enough or not Pamela Sue Anderson
[sic] enough.
What's the secret for the heat between
Mulder and Scully?
We have a kind of furtive understanding that it's me
and her against the world. That's kind of sexy regardless of whether or not you
wanna fuck them all the time.
Do you play it like Fox has impure thoughts
about Scully?
No, what I tend to play it is that I always want to
check with her. Whenever I hear something interesting, I'll look at her. That's
sexy to people. I don't play it like Fox wants to fuck her. But there's some
tension between us whenever there's another woman around.
Apart from the rare vampire fling and his
porno collection, Fox is pretty asexual.
He's not asexual. Sex is not high on his list of
priorities. It's weird because most of the time women don't register with this
guy, then there'll be an episode where he's led around by his dick.
How many times has Fox gotten laid?
Once. The one time with the vampire.
Were you uncomfortable with his having a
porno habit?
A little queasy at first, but it did make sense.
Mulder never gets any, and it's hard for him to make connections. I guess it's
also to tell people I am interested in women -at least in abusing them. Oh, he's
not gay -he loves to abuse women!
I've heard you're sick of answering whether
you believe in this paranormal stuff.
I'm not the character that I play. And if I did
believe, I wouldn't want to discuss it with every stranger. We want to believe
there's something more intelligent than us, something kinder, something that
will help us in the end. But I've never understood exactly why these shadowy
figures would want to hide this information. It's like JFK. I can't even keep a
secret with my best friend. We can't even get a health-care plan, but they can
hide extraterrestrials.
Do you feel responsible for adding to our
cultural paranoia?
No. We didn't create this -we tapped on it, and
we've come to symbolize it. I did a course at Yale and there was a thing about
advertising and the fact that the armpit didn't even exist as a body part until
deodorant companies decided it was a problem. Sometimes I feel that's what we've
done. We verbalized a problem people didn't know existed. But there was always
an armpit.
Do you see "The X-Files" as a
spiritual show?
Yeah. We could do a lot religious shows because at
the heart of the Jesus story - with all the faith healing and miracle working-
the dude was into some paranormal shit. That's your Lenninish "We're bigger
than Jesus" line. When I said "bigger than Jesus" I just meant
more muscular.
Would you watch "The X-Files" if
you weren't on it?
Hard to say. It's like saying, "Would you love
me if I killed your rabbit?" I actually had this discussion with an old
girlfriend. She had a rabbit with cancer, and it smelled terrible. I asked her
if it'd be OK if I killed her rabbit, and she had the greatest line. She said,
"No because it wouldn't be you"
Despite being the right generation -X, oddly
enough- Mulder and Scully are anything but slackers.
I guess our work running around chasing aliens in the
wood is so much fun. Whenever I talk to an FBI agent, I ask if we're doing it
kinda realistically. They'll say "Not enough paperwork,man"
So you run into G-men a lot?
No, but there was one in the audience of Jeopardy!
I asked him what I can do better. He said "Don't ever reach for you
ID with your gun hand". That's very smart.
What's the FBI's attitude towards the show
now?
They like it because we're courteous and we don't
use racial epithets and don't bust people's doors. Plus, like J. Edgar Hoover,
you've got a background in cross-dressing. I had a line, I wanted to use
in the first season : "This dates back to the first X-File, back to our
illustrious cross-dressing founder" They took cross-dressing out.
Was there anything called an X-File?
Maybe a Malcolm X file?
Do you go online to get feedback?
No, I'm self conscious enough with 10 million
people looking at you every week. I don't need to go on the Internet to
get confirmation that I suck.
What are Fox's politics?
I think Fox is an anarchist. His passion comes out of a
sense of justice -more a symbolic sense of right and wrong, not so much right or
left.
Will there be an "X-Files"
endorsement of a presidential candidate?
I don't know. However there will be no X-Files
endorsement of Diet Coke.
What do you think when you see all the
"X-Files" merchandise?
I think, "Here's another thing I don't get
money from"
Unlike your colleagues, you haven't appeared
at any of the "X-Files" conventions.
I have my convention virginity intact. It's nice to
do a good show, but I want to be able to move on. Doing conventions is a way of
not moving on. I meet people who like the show all the time, and I shake hands.
I don't need to get paid 15000$ to go to some convention. In 20 years I might.
What about the rumored film version of
"The X-Files"?
I think they want to do it the next hiatus. At this point I'd rather play
other roles, but I wouldn't want anyone else to do this role.
I've heard you and Gillian don't socialize
much.
No, we never do. We spend enough time together.
What did you think of posing in bed
together?
I thought the photos were great. And I thought that
Chris Carter
grooms his chest hair.
[As we wrap up, Duchovny realizes that we are
mysteriously locked in his trailer. Heroically jumping to action, he calls the
production office for help on his walkie-talkie]
Boy getting stuck in here is sure just like an
X-File, huh? If there was no resolution -if it ended up maybe we're in here,
maybe we're not- that would have been like an X-File. The difference between
Mulder and David would have to be that Mulder can escape from a burning boxcar
buried in sand in the middle of a desert and David can't even get out of his new
Airstream trailer.